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Bruin Alliance of Skeptics and Secularists Confronts Ray ComfortSubmitted by Lyz on Sun, 2009-11-29 11:51.
Roy Natian, founder of the Bruin Alliance of Skeptics and Secularists, found his group in a unique position when Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron appeared in person on UCLA's campus to distribute the Living Waters Ministry's version of Darwin's Origin of Species. Roy and Ben Jolitz both shared their experiences "confronting Comfort." Roy Natian explains the situation and his group's plans: Note: If you don’t know who Ray Comfort is, check out this video with him and a banana…it’ll go far in showing you his mental capacity/ignorance/dishonesty. Well, they changed their mind. They hit campuses all over the US [on November 18th]. Sneaky Ray, very sneaky. This wasn’t unexpected though. BASS saw the possibility of this misinformation campaign occurring on a date other than the advertised one. BASS members were prepared to pass out printed materials from the NCSE any time this week. Several BASS members handed out flyers and bookmarks with information about evolution. Surprisingly, both Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron were at UCLA in person. A few BASS members engaged and debated with them on evolution and at least one BASS member was interviewed on camera. Spencer Fern, BASS secretary, even got to take a picture with Ray. It’s interesting how Ray is in the same position in the three pictures.
BASS member Ben Jolitz wrote up his "confronting Comfort" experiences:
Translation:
Well, some of my friends actually debated the Banana man himself, while I was late and had to make do with some guy who I think was Latino and claimed to have served in Iraq, not that he looked particularly fit. While he was preaching, he made the statement that is paraphrased as “Without God, there is no reason to live a good life”. Enough being enough, I made my way to the box opposing from him in the circle of the public. “Sir!” I begin, “That is out of line! You are wrong” He calls me rude, but I persist, gesturing. As he quiets, I quote Marcus Aurelius, messing it up a bit, but here is the correct quote:
The crowd cheered, but then the creationist attempts character assassination, asking if I’ve ever lied then trying to call me a liar (someone answered his question with “Christian” to “What do we call those who lie?”), etc,. I call it out – and I get the hypothetical of “If you were at God’s feet”, etc, at which I concede that if God was in front of me, I would accept judgement and bow down, but only under extreme and exact conditions. He then devolves back into proselytizing and professes how much he cares for me. At that point, I am weirded out again, but looks like he is tired too, so someone else takes the boxes away and it ends. On the upside, my club and I passed out many fliers from the NCSE on “Why Ray Comfort is Wrong”.
For more information on BASS's Confronting Comfort activities: PZ Myers on Pharyngula linked to BASS and a post written on Spencer’s website about Ray Comfort being at UCLA today. BASS president Joe Creason posted some video of Ray Comfort on Youtube.
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